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As an artist, some of the work I do involves the use of seashells, sea rocks/stones, etc. I picked up a black rock from shore at one of the beaches here in Florida and it looked somewhat clumpy with other rocks and debris encrusted on it. As I do with everything I collect, I thoroughly washed all the rocks with fresh water and then placed them in a bucket filled with water and a good dose of bleach.

After drying the rocks, I noticed that the black one had small, reddish, powdery pimples all over it. It looked odd, so I broke the rock in half with a hammer,but there was nothing red inside. It actually looked like carbon, but the rock isn't brittle or powdery. I stuck the two halves back in a bucket, filled it half way with water, and them put more bleach in it. The water turned dark, almost muddy, and a reddish, almost gelatinous precipitate appeared and it was quite a bit of it. Any idea what the heck is in that rock that can cause that? I didn't notice any odor other than the bleach, albeit the rock did smell a bit sulfury. Any idea what I have soaking in the bucket?

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Is your rock magnetic? It might not be, but what you are reporting sounds like iron oxide (i.e. rust), and so your rock could be an iron ore like taconite, or even magnetite. Such an ore could look like carbon. Even if not magnetic, it could still be an iron ore.

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  • $\begingroup$ Thank you for your response. The rock is not magnetic nor does it have a metallic look or feel to it. Is bleach reactive with iron to form a reddish precipitate? The gelatinous looking precipitate looks quite intimidating. I may actually filter it out and see if a local chem teacher can check it out. Thanks again. $\endgroup$
    – Rob
    Commented Jan 3, 2014 at 2:20
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    $\begingroup$ Iron ores do not appear metallic, they look like rock. I agree with your intuition to further probe the gelatinous participate. A quick check indicates that there may not be many stable transition metal hypochlorites, but that's no guarantee as to the composition of your participate. So it is still possible you have an iron ore, as the reddish participate does sound like the oxide. Do you have access to hydrochloric adic (muriatic acid)? If reacting the acid with the red substance produces a yellow substance, that is a strong indication that your cation is iron. $\endgroup$
    – user467
    Commented Jan 3, 2014 at 2:37
  • $\begingroup$ I will try to run the test with the acid. Think I may have to pay a visit to the local high school and see if the chem teacher can spare a couple of drops of HCL. I will post on here what I have once I figure it out. Thanks for the qualitative analysis suggestion. $\endgroup$
    – Rob
    Commented Jan 3, 2014 at 2:54
  • $\begingroup$ I will be simpler to identify the rock, rather than the precipitate. It sounds like iron ore, according to your experiment. Check the ores mentioned at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_ore $\endgroup$
    – ssavec
    Commented Mar 4, 2014 at 11:50
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Your rock most likely had minerals with Fe(II) in them. These minerals are usually dark coloured, so I wouldn't be surprised that the rock was black. One famous example is basalt - a black rock with lots of Fe(II) in it. Here's a picture of a basalt-like rock:

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Some of these minerals are olivine ($\ce{(Mg,Fe)2SiO4}$), pyroxene ($\ce{Ca(Mg,Fe)Si2O6}$) and amphibole ($\ce{Ca2(Mg,Fe)5Si8O22(OH)2}$). You also state that the rock smells a bit sulfury. This is a bit hint that some of the minerals you had in the rock are sulfides such as pentlantide ($\ce{(Fe,Ni)9S8}$), pyrrhotite (ideally $\ce{FeS}$) or chalcopyrite ($\ce{CuFeS2}$). By adding bleach (an oxidiser), you're basically taking this Fe(II) and oxidising it to Fe(III), which binds with abundant water in the bucket to form a compound commonly known as rust. The sulfur is then oxidised to gaseous $\ce{SO2}$ that gives that odour.

You're basically making a small scale version of a very serious environmental problem, acid mine drainage:

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source: Jack Pearce at flickr

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