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There is a nice little article in the Journal of Chemical Eduction Negative pH Does Exist pointing out examples of negative pHs in water, for example pH = -3.6 in mine water in California. So -1.7 is not the lowest possible pH in water. Keep in mind that pH is defined in terms of hydrogen ion activity rather than concentration. This is emphasized in Paradoxes: Demonstrating That It Is Not True That pH ≡ -log[H+]. At high acid concentation, hydrogen ion activity greatly deviates from hydrogen ion concentration. For example, in 16 molar HCl, hydrogen ion activity is 678!

And see Negative pH and Extremely Acidic Mine Waters from Iron Mountain, California (no paywall), which describes pH values even below -4.

In Hydronium ion activity in strongly acidic media. Remarkable agreement between independent estimates Am. Chem. Soc. vol. 95, pp 3055–3057, 70% sulfuric acid is found to have a pH of -9.8 (negative 9.8)!

However, ignoring activity and the true definition of pH, considering that pure water has a concentration of 55M, if all the water molecules were instead hydronium ions, -log(55) = -1.7. Then in articles like Who Knows the Ka Values of Water and the Hydronium Ion? this value is attributed to the pKa of hydronium, with the supposed justification that: $K_a = \frac{[\ce{H3O+}][\ce{H2O}]}{[\ce{H3O+}]} = [\ce{H2O}]$

The article New point of view on the meaning and on the values of Ka(H3O+, H2O) and Kb(H2O, OH-) pairs in water is a serious consideration of the true meaning of the pKa of hydronium, and points out that the -1.7 value for the pKa of hydronium has no justification.

In conclusion, pH can be below -1.7 and the pK of hydronium isn't really -1.7.

There is a nice little article in the Journal of Chemical Eduction Negative pH Does Exist pointing out examples of negative pHs in water, for example pH = -3.6 in mine water in California. So -1.7 is not the lowest possible pH in water. Keep in mind that pH is defined in terms of hydrogen ion activity rather than concentration. This is emphasized in Paradoxes: Demonstrating That It Is Not True That pH ≡ -log[H+]. At high acid concentation, hydrogen ion activity greatly deviates from hydrogen ion concentration. For example, in 16 molar HCl, hydrogen ion activity is 678!

And see Negative pH and Extremely Acidic Mine Waters from Iron Mountain, California (no paywall), which describes pH values even below -4.

However, ignoring activity and the true definition of pH, considering that pure water has a concentration of 55M, if all the water molecules were instead hydronium ions, -log(55) = -1.7. Then in articles like Who Knows the Ka Values of Water and the Hydronium Ion? this value is attributed to the pKa of hydronium, with the supposed justification that: $K_a = \frac{[\ce{H3O+}][\ce{H2O}]}{[\ce{H3O+}]} = [\ce{H2O}]$

The article New point of view on the meaning and on the values of Ka(H3O+, H2O) and Kb(H2O, OH-) pairs in water is a serious consideration of the true meaning of the pKa of hydronium, and points out that the -1.7 value for the pKa of hydronium has no justification.

In conclusion, pH can be below -1.7 and the pK of hydronium isn't really -1.7.

There is a nice little article in the Journal of Chemical Eduction Negative pH Does Exist pointing out examples of negative pHs in water, for example pH = -3.6 in mine water in California. So -1.7 is not the lowest possible pH in water. Keep in mind that pH is defined in terms of hydrogen ion activity rather than concentration. This is emphasized in Paradoxes: Demonstrating That It Is Not True That pH ≡ -log[H+]. At high acid concentation, hydrogen ion activity greatly deviates from hydrogen ion concentration. For example, in 16 molar HCl, hydrogen ion activity is 678!

And see Negative pH and Extremely Acidic Mine Waters from Iron Mountain, California (no paywall), which describes pH values even below -4.

In Hydronium ion activity in strongly acidic media. Remarkable agreement between independent estimates Am. Chem. Soc. vol. 95, pp 3055–3057, 70% sulfuric acid is found to have a pH of -9.8 (negative 9.8)!

However, ignoring activity and the true definition of pH, considering that pure water has a concentration of 55M, if all the water molecules were instead hydronium ions, -log(55) = -1.7. Then in articles like Who Knows the Ka Values of Water and the Hydronium Ion? this value is attributed to the pKa of hydronium, with the supposed justification that: $K_a = \frac{[\ce{H3O+}][\ce{H2O}]}{[\ce{H3O+}]} = [\ce{H2O}]$

The article New point of view on the meaning and on the values of Ka(H3O+, H2O) and Kb(H2O, OH-) pairs in water is a serious consideration of the true meaning of the pKa of hydronium, and points out that the -1.7 value for the pKa of hydronium has no justification.

In conclusion, pH can be below -1.7 and the pK of hydronium isn't really -1.7.

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There is a nice little article in the Journal of Chemical Eduction Negative pH Does Exist pointing out examples of negative pHs in water, for example pH = -3.6 in mine water in California. So -1.7 is not the lowest possible pH in water. Keep in mind that pH is defined in terms of hydrogen ion activity rather than concentration. This is emphasized in Paradoxes: Demonstrating That It Is Not True That pH ≡ -log[H+]. At high acid concentation, hydrogen ion activity greatly deviates from hydrogen ion concentration. For example, in 16 molar HCl, hydrogen ion activity is 678!

And see Negative pH and Extremely Acidic Mine Waters from Iron Mountain, California (no paywall), which describes pH values even below -4.

However, ignoring activity and the true definition of pH, considering that pure water has a concentration of 55M, if all the water molecules were instead hydronium ions, -log(55) = -1.7. Then in articles like Who Knows the Ka Values of Water and the Hydronium Ion? this value is attributed to the pKa of hydronium, with the supposed justification that: $K_a = \frac{[\ce{H3O+}][\ce{H2O}]}{[\ce{H3O+}]} = [\ce{H2O}]$

The article New point of view on the meaning and on the values of Ka(H3O+, H2O) and Kb(H2O, OH-) pairs in water is a serious consideration of the true meaning of the pKa of hydronium, and points out that the -1.7 value for the pKa of hydronium has no justification.

In conclusion, pH can be below -1.7 and the pK of hydronium isn't really -1.7.

There is a nice little article in the Journal of Chemical Eduction Negative pH Does Exist pointing out examples of negative pHs in water, for example pH = -3.6 in mine water in California. So -1.7 is not the lowest possible pH in water. Keep in mind that pH is defined in terms of hydrogen ion activity rather than concentration. This is emphasized in Paradoxes: Demonstrating That It Is Not True That pH ≡ -log[H+]. At high acid concentation, hydrogen ion activity greatly deviates from hydrogen ion concentration. For example, in 16 molar HCl, hydrogen ion activity is 678!

However, ignoring activity and the true definition of pH, considering that pure water has a concentration of 55M, if all the water molecules were instead hydronium ions, -log(55) = -1.7. Then in articles like Who Knows the Ka Values of Water and the Hydronium Ion? this value is attributed to the pKa of hydronium, with the supposed justification that: $K_a = \frac{[\ce{H3O+}][\ce{H2O}]}{[\ce{H3O+}]} = [\ce{H2O}]$

The article New point of view on the meaning and on the values of Ka(H3O+, H2O) and Kb(H2O, OH-) pairs in water is a serious consideration of the true meaning of the pKa of hydronium, and points out that the -1.7 value for the pKa of hydronium has no justification.

In conclusion, pH can be below -1.7 and the pK of hydronium isn't really -1.7.

There is a nice little article in the Journal of Chemical Eduction Negative pH Does Exist pointing out examples of negative pHs in water, for example pH = -3.6 in mine water in California. So -1.7 is not the lowest possible pH in water. Keep in mind that pH is defined in terms of hydrogen ion activity rather than concentration. This is emphasized in Paradoxes: Demonstrating That It Is Not True That pH ≡ -log[H+]. At high acid concentation, hydrogen ion activity greatly deviates from hydrogen ion concentration. For example, in 16 molar HCl, hydrogen ion activity is 678!

And see Negative pH and Extremely Acidic Mine Waters from Iron Mountain, California (no paywall), which describes pH values even below -4.

However, ignoring activity and the true definition of pH, considering that pure water has a concentration of 55M, if all the water molecules were instead hydronium ions, -log(55) = -1.7. Then in articles like Who Knows the Ka Values of Water and the Hydronium Ion? this value is attributed to the pKa of hydronium, with the supposed justification that: $K_a = \frac{[\ce{H3O+}][\ce{H2O}]}{[\ce{H3O+}]} = [\ce{H2O}]$

The article New point of view on the meaning and on the values of Ka(H3O+, H2O) and Kb(H2O, OH-) pairs in water is a serious consideration of the true meaning of the pKa of hydronium, and points out that the -1.7 value for the pKa of hydronium has no justification.

In conclusion, pH can be below -1.7 and the pK of hydronium isn't really -1.7.

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There is a nice little article in the Journal of Chemical Eduction Negative pH Does Exist pointing out examples of negative pHs in water, for example pH = -3.6 in mine water in California. So -1.7 is not the lowest possible pH in water. Keep in mind that pH is defined in terms of hydrogen ion activity rather than concentration. This is emphasized in Paradoxes: Demonstrating That It Is Not True That pH ≡ -log[H+]. At high acid concentation, hydrogen ion activityactivity greatly deviates from hydrogen ion concentration. For example, in 16 molar HCl, hydrogen ion activity is 678!

However, ignoring activity and the true definition of pH, considering that pure water has a concentration of 55M, if all the water molecules were instead hydronium ions, -log(55) = -1.7. Then in articles like Who Knows the Ka Values of Water and the Hydronium Ion? this value is attributed to the pKa of hydronium, with the supposed justification that: $K_a = \frac{[\ce{H3O+}][\ce{H2O}]}{[\ce{H3O+}]} = [\ce{H2O}]$

The article New point of view on the meaning and on the values of Ka(H3O+, H2O) and Kb(H2O, OH-) pairs in water is a serious consideration of the true meaning of the pKa of hydronium, and points out that the -1.7 value for the pKa of hydronium has no justification.

In conclusion, pH can be below -1.7 and the pK of hydronium isn't really -1.7.

There is a nice little article in the Journal of Chemical Eduction Negative pH Does Exist pointing out examples of negative pHs in water, for example pH = -3.6 in mine water in California. So -1.7 is not the lowest possible pH in water. Keep in mind that pH is defined in terms of hydrogen ion activity rather than concentration. This is emphasized in Paradoxes: Demonstrating That It Is Not True That pH ≡ -log[H+]. At high acid concentation, hydrogen ion activity greatly deviates from hydrogen ion concentration. For example, in 16 molar HCl, hydrogen ion activity is 678!

However, ignoring activity and the true definition of pH, considering that pure water has a concentration of 55M, if all the water molecules were instead hydronium ions, -log(55) = -1.7. Then in articles like Who Knows the Ka Values of Water and the Hydronium Ion? this value is attributed to the pKa of hydronium, with the supposed justification that: $K_a = \frac{[\ce{H3O+}][\ce{H2O}]}{[\ce{H3O+}]} = [\ce{H2O}]$

The article New point of view on the meaning and on the values of Ka(H3O+, H2O) and Kb(H2O, OH-) pairs in water is a serious consideration of the true meaning of the pKa of hydronium, and points out that the -1.7 value for the pKa of hydronium has no justification.

In conclusion, pH can be below -1.7 and the pK of hydronium isn't really -1.7.

There is a nice little article in the Journal of Chemical Eduction Negative pH Does Exist pointing out examples of negative pHs in water, for example pH = -3.6 in mine water in California. So -1.7 is not the lowest possible pH in water. Keep in mind that pH is defined in terms of hydrogen ion activity rather than concentration. This is emphasized in Paradoxes: Demonstrating That It Is Not True That pH ≡ -log[H+]. At high acid concentation, hydrogen ion activity greatly deviates from hydrogen ion concentration. For example, in 16 molar HCl, hydrogen ion activity is 678!

However, ignoring activity and the true definition of pH, considering that pure water has a concentration of 55M, if all the water molecules were instead hydronium ions, -log(55) = -1.7. Then in articles like Who Knows the Ka Values of Water and the Hydronium Ion? this value is attributed to the pKa of hydronium, with the supposed justification that: $K_a = \frac{[\ce{H3O+}][\ce{H2O}]}{[\ce{H3O+}]} = [\ce{H2O}]$

The article New point of view on the meaning and on the values of Ka(H3O+, H2O) and Kb(H2O, OH-) pairs in water is a serious consideration of the true meaning of the pKa of hydronium, and points out that the -1.7 value for the pKa of hydronium has no justification.

In conclusion, pH can be below -1.7 and the pK of hydronium isn't really -1.7.

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