# Weak acid dilution

Given a solution with molarity $$\pu{0.5 M}$$ of a weak acid $$\ce{HA}$$ has $$\mathrm{pH} = 1.670$$. How much water in liters needs to be added to $$\pu{0.150 L}$$ of the first solution to get a $$\mathrm{pH} = 2.5$$?

My attempt was calculating the $$K_\mathrm{a}$$ of the acid using the first $$\mathrm{pH}$$ and then using it in the standard variation table used in these problems with the knowledge that the concentration of $$\ce{H3O+}$$ at the equilibrium are given by the last $$\mathrm{pH}$$.

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• @MattiaMariantoni - you don't really need to calculate the $K_a$. What is the simplified formula for the pH of a solution of a weak monoprotic acid? If you know that, you just need to write it once with $pH = 1.67$ and $C_{acid} = 0.5$, then again with $pH = 2$ and $C_{acid}$ as the unknown. Divide the first equation by the second, and you should get an expression in $C_{acid}$ alone. Solve that and you get the concentration that the acid needs to have in the final solution. The rest is stoichiometry. Dec 9, 2017 at 15:42

The initial acid concentration is $\ce{C(HA)}=0.5\ \mathrm{M}$.

The weak dissociation of the acid follows:

$$\ce{HA(aq) + H2O(l) <=> H3O+(aq) + A-(aq)}$$

We'll ignore the auto-dissociation of water as negligible. So only the dissociation of the acid plays on the $pH$:

$$K_a=\frac{[\ce{H3O+}]\times [\ce{A-}]}{[\ce{HA}]}$$

Stoichiometry now tells us:

$\ce{[HA]=C(HA)-10^{-pH}}$ and:

$\ce{[A-]=10^{-pH}}$ and:

$\ce{[H3O+]=10^{-pH}}$

Insert all this into the expression above to get the $K_a$.

Now with the second $pH$, insert the same expressions into the now known $K_a$, and calculate the new acid concentration, call it $\ce{C'(HA)}$.

Let the original volume be $V_1$ and the volume after dilution $V_2$, then because the number of moles of acid hasn't changed:

$$\ce{C(HA)}\times V_1=\ce{C'(HA)}\times V_2$$

Then $V_2-V_1$ is the volume that has to be added to increase the $pH$ as stated per the problem.

Note that:

$\ce{[HA]>>10^{-pH}}$

Which simplifies the calculation of $K_a$ because $\ce{[HA] \approx C(HA)}$.

It is also correct, if we use the simplified acid constant expression, that strictly speaking we don't need to calculate the $K_a$.

At $\ce{pH=1.670}$:

$$K_a=\frac{\Big(10^{-1.67}\Big)^2}{\ce{C(HA)}}$$

At $\ce{pH=2.5}$:

$$K_a=\frac{\Big(10^{-2.5}\Big)^2}{\ce{C'(HA)}}$$

Divide both expressions by each other, the $K_a$ drop out and find the ratio of the concentrations of acid. From there find the ratio and difference of volumes, as above.

• Same result of the book, although for the second pH we cannot neglect the $10^{-pH}$ term. Dec 9, 2017 at 16:25
• Why not? It's even smaller than in the first case: 0.0032 mol/L.
– Gert
Dec 9, 2017 at 16:27
• But the acid concentration is also much smaller, correct me if I am wrong please. Dec 9, 2017 at 16:29
• No, I think you're right. I haven't run any numbers. In any case you can use the correct expression in the second case and get the right result.
– Gert
Dec 9, 2017 at 16:32