When I go to dispense liquid nitrogen after someone else has just used it (say in the last 30 minutes or so), the copper pipe used to transfer the liquid is covered in frost/ice.

This makes sense, as the pipe gets incredibly cold, condenses water out of the air which freezes extremely quickly due to the vast difference in temperature (77K for liquid nitrogen vs. water freezing at around 273K).

What I find confusing is that once I start dispensing the nitrogen, this frost/ice appears to 'melt' into a liquid, this seems less intuitive to me. My first thought is that so much new water is condensing out of the air that the frost/ice gets 'wet', however I'd expect this to freeze very quickly and the ice to eventually get so thick that this issue of wetting became irrelevant. Alternatively, one could imagine condensing something else out of the air which is indeed a liquid at these temperatures such as oxygen, but in this case I don't observe the characteristic blue colour.

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Your "first thought" is basically right, with one clarification. The addition of "so much new water" to the existing ice results in the formation of liquid water due to the latent heat released upon condensation. This results in melting of the existing frost and thus the transitory existence of liquid water.

Also you can rule out oxygen condensation. Firstly there is some insulation between the 77 K liquid nitrogen and the atmosphere, so the surface is not likely to cool all the way to the 90 K boiling point of oxygen. More importantly, oxygen would not condense from the air at 77 K anyway. You have to think in terms of saturation vapor pressures, and the vapor pressure of oxygen in our air is only about 0.21 atmospheres.

By analogy, albeit an extreme one, the temperature in the coldest regions of our atmosphere drops below the sublimation point of carbon dioxide. Does that cause the formation of dry-ice clouds? Not even close. The sublimation point of carbon dioxide in this example, like the boiling point of oxygen in your example, is only relevant at 1 atmosphere of pressure of that compound, and in neither case does our atmosphere contain 1 atmosphere of either of those compounds.


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