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So I have encountered a question which looks very suspicious to me.

If you have $\ce{Cl-}$ and $\ce{K+}$, Can you say that $\ce{K+}$ has more ionization energy than $\ce{Cl-}$?

We know for a fact that when you put more electrons it makes the the pulling force of the protons a bit scattered (because of the incremental of the electrons in $\ce{Cl-}$) so the ionization energy of chlorine should go down.

The opposite happens to $\ce{K+}$ when I remove electrons the pulling force of protons is stronger (Because it pulls less electrons) than it used to be so the ionization energy goes up!

So What I am proposing here that we can't just say that $\ce{K+}$ has more ionization energy than $\ce{Cl-}$ just because that happened. $\ce{Cl}$ had a really high ionization energy compared to $\ce{K}$ and the decrement of the ionization wouldn't be that big to make it less than the ionization energy of $\ce{K+}$.

(The answer was that $\ce{K+}$ has more ionization energy than $\ce{Cl-}$ in the exam paper but I questioning that)

So if there is a chart or something for this that would be awesome. I hope I can get some help here.

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  • $\begingroup$ Gravity ain't involved here. Are you looking for a chart of ionization energies? If so, they're all over the place - Google it. As it reads now, your question is a little unclear: if you can edit it for clarity to specify what the gist of your question is, that will help you and the community here get an answer (or more) to your query. $\endgroup$ – Todd Minehardt Dec 27 '15 at 18:58
  • $\begingroup$ Oops didnt mean gravity sorry. I know that there are a lot of charts out there but I cant seem to find any chart that has cl- in it. The question is simply is: Who has a higher Ionization energy k+ or cl-? and explain why. I put my argument up there. So that who will answer the question can check it out. $\endgroup$ – Biker Dec 27 '15 at 19:17
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    $\begingroup$ Look at it this way: what is the electronic configuration of $\ce{K^+}$? What is the electronic configuration of $\ce{Cl-}$? $\endgroup$ – Ivan Neretin Dec 27 '15 at 19:30
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The general reaction we are looking at when discussion ionisation enthalpy is:

$$\ce{X -> X+ + e-}$$

With the electron removed into space (i.e. totally disappearing). An electron is a negatively charged particle, so removing it from something negative will be easier than removing it from something positive. Thus, you have a very stable $\ce{K+}$ ion and are trying to rip away another electron from this (bad) — and you need to rip it out of a core orbital — all valence orbitals are already empty, the last one when you removed that previous electron to generate $\ce{K+}$ (very bad). A combination of bad and very bad gives us a very high ionisation energy for $\ce{K+}$.

Discussing chloride, first of all we have an anion, so the removal of an electron is generally good for removing excess charge. Second, we again have something that has a full octet — but this time the octet is a valence octet, not a core octet, so removing the electron will be a lot easier. We have a combination of good and relatively good, so the ionisation energy of $\ce{Cl-}$ will be rather low.

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