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I'm trying to work out which are the aromatic ring systems in the drug aklavinone:

Structure of aklavinone with quinone ring highlighted

I am trying to follow Hückel's rules that the compound must be cyclic, be planar, possess a p-orbital on every atom in the ring, and have a π-system with $4n+2$ electrons.

I see that the benzene rings are obviously aromatic. But does the quinone ring (in red) also count as part of the 'aromatic ring system'?

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Strictly speaking, once we have anything more than a single cycle without conjugated side chains, the Hückel's rule does not really apply, and the very definition of aromaticity becomes somewhat muddy. But that's not an answer they expect from you, anyway. So just point to the first and third rings and call them aromatic, and that would be it.

Why not the second? Well, because the quinone fragment is not aromatic. Its bond length are different from each other. These $\ce{C=O}$ bonds are always double, and the $\ce{C-C}$ bonds next to them are always single; you can't draw a resonance structure where that would be otherwise.

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    $\begingroup$ But I can ;) Sorry but they are still conjugated. $\endgroup$
    – Mithoron
    Oct 8, 2015 at 13:46
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    $\begingroup$ And more importantly that quinone ring only has $4\ \pi$ electrons. $\endgroup$
    – Ben Norris
    Oct 8, 2015 at 13:47
  • $\begingroup$ This is too much of a simplification imho. Either the entire system is aromatic through all of its conjugation, or the conjugation is broken somewhere (cyclooctatetraene). It’s not like the bond lengths of the two phenolic rings be equal whether single or double. $\endgroup$
    – Jan
    Oct 8, 2015 at 13:50
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    $\begingroup$ @Mithoron, I'd like to take a look at these. The quinone system is conjugated, I won't deny the obvious, but aromatic it is not. $\endgroup$ Oct 8, 2015 at 13:58
  • $\begingroup$ @Jan, of course my answer contains a good deal of simplification, but I don't agree with your concept either. Surely this whole system is conjugated to some extent, but still we may point out some rings that are "more aromatic" and others that are less so. $\endgroup$ Oct 8, 2015 at 13:58
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Whether the ring is "aromatic" or not is of no importance. You can't ever fit a structure with pendant pi bonds into the "4n+2" rule. But you can draw molecular orbital structures. In para-quinone you find an alternant system with four bonding pi orbitals and four antibonding ones. So the important number is eight pi electrons being the optimal number for the system, not any number of electrons in the ring or whether the ring fits some rule for aromaticity. And we have that both here and in the parent quinone.

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1,4-benzoquinone is NOT aromatic even if it could satisfy Huckel's (4n+2) pi electron rule. The carbonyl pi electrons do not resonate within the ring = no proper conjugation, just cross-conjugation.

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    $\begingroup$ That is wrong. And I do not have any more words for that. $\endgroup$ Feb 21, 2021 at 19:57

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