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I thought that anything not in a rate equation was automatically zeroth order and therefore did not affect the reaction. However, I have heard that catalysts can be involved in a reaction while not being in a rate equation. How can this be possible?

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  • $\begingroup$ Rate equation is generally created on empirical basis to establish a relationship between the rate and reactant concentration. The dependence on catalysis concentration is generally complex and most cases not needed (only later optimised or used in excess quantity). $\endgroup$
    – Greg
    Commented Oct 12, 2014 at 19:26
  • $\begingroup$ So if I understand correctly, as with temperature, the rate constant also depends on the particular concentration of any active catalyst which is involved - this being found experimentally. Correct? $\endgroup$
    – Resquiens
    Commented Oct 12, 2014 at 19:29
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    $\begingroup$ >catalyst not be included in a rate equation || WTF? catalyst's concentraion (in case of homogenous catalyst) should be in rate equation (usually, if the mechanism is complicated enough, some wanders may happen). Heterogenous catalyst is usually not included in rate equation as it is, well, heterogenous and not in reaction mixture, so it's concentraion in the mixtire is zero by definition (but concentration of active particles on surface of the catalyst shoud be included into the rate equation) $\endgroup$
    – permeakra
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    $\begingroup$ Granted that the more catalyst there is, the faster the reaction will proceed. Since a catalyst provides a different route to the products, a different rate equation is obtained. This is now a 3 (or more) particle interaction, which is difficult to model. I have not seen any studies with the rate changes with the amount of catalyst. $\endgroup$
    – LDC3
    Commented Oct 12, 2014 at 20:18
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    $\begingroup$ @LDC3 From PChem point of view a bound state of one of the reactant and the catalyst is a single particle, and the bound state + other reactant reaction is a separate, two-body elementary reaction. By three body reactions we mean collisions of three independent entity,which has markedly different kinetic and dynamic behavior, and also a pretty low chance to occur at all. $\endgroup$
    – Greg
    Commented Oct 14, 2014 at 2:14

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Enzyme kinetics is one area of catalysis that has been studied extensively. The Michaelis-Menton equation being one of the central pillars and explicitly states the roles of concentration for both the substrate and enzymes.

Also, to answer your question: the rate equation is at times more interested in establishing equilibrium conditions than obtaining the time it takes to get there. The time to reach equilibrium is slightly neglected as the question "are we there yet" seems trivial when distance = rate times time.

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    $\begingroup$ There is a slight difference in the concentrations for catalysts and enzymes. For most non-enzymatic reactions, the catalyst concentration is less than any of the reactants. For most enzymatic reactions, such as the enzyme catalase converting $\ce {H2O2}$, the enzyme has a greater concentration than $\ce {H2O2}$ under normal conditions. $\endgroup$
    – LDC3
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In chemical kinetics, we are interested in knowing the dependence of the rate of reaction on the concentrations of reactants. The effect of any other factor, such as temperature, pressure or catalysts is observed in change of K, the rate constant of the reaction.

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