What would be the name of a linear alkane containing 10000 carbon atoms, i.e. $\ce{C10000H20002}$?
I have searched for it, but the longest alkane I could find had 9000 carbon atoms (and was apparently called nonaliane).
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Sign up to join this communityWhat would be the name of a linear alkane containing 10000 carbon atoms, i.e. $\ce{C10000H20002}$?
I have searched for it, but the longest alkane I could find had 9000 carbon atoms (and was apparently called nonaliane).
I suppose one can treat $\ce{C10000H20002}$ as polyethylene $\require{enclose}\ce{\enclose{horizontalstrike}{\;(}CH2\enclose{horizontalstrike}{)_n}}$ with the defined degree of polymerization, resulting in source-based IUPAC name polyethene (10000 DP) or polyethene (140000 $M_\mathrm{r}$) [1, pp. 315–317]:
11.2 Structure- and source-based names for common polymers
$$ \begin{array}{lll} \hline \text{Structure} & \text{Source-based name} & \text{Structure-based name }\\ & \text{(preferred given first)} & \\ \hline \require{enclose}\ce{\enclose{horizontalstrike}{\;(}CH2\enclose{horizontalstrike}{)_n}}^\textit{a} & \text{polyethene} & \text{poly(methylene)} \\ & \text{polyethylene}^\textit{b} & \\ \vdots & & \\ \hline \end{array} $$
$^\textit{a}$ The formulae $\require{enclose}\ce{\enclose{horizontalstrike}{\;(}CH2CH2\enclose{horizontalstrike}{)_n}}$ and $\require{enclose}\ce{\enclose{horizontalstrike}{\;(}CF2CF2\enclose{horizontalstrike}{)_n}}$ are more often used; they are acceptable due to past usage and an attempt to retain some similarity to the CRU formulae of homopolymers derived from other ethene derivatives.
$^\textit{b}$ Traditional names.
Further from [1, p. 351]:
Rule 1.8: Specifications about mass fractions $(w),$ mole fractions $(x),$ molar masses $(M),$ relative molecular masses $(M_\mathrm{r}),$ degrees of polymerization (DP) or the average values of the latter three quantities, may be expressed by placing the corresponding values in parentheses after the formula of the macromolecule in a manner analogous to that recommended for the naming of copolymers [6].
From subsection 8 Specification with regard to mass fractions, mole fractions, molar masses and degrees of polymerization [1, p. 381]:
Rule 8.3
The molar mass, relative molecular mass or degree of polymerization may be included in the scheme of Rules 8.1 and 8.2 by adding the corresponding figures, followed by the symbol $M,$ $M_\mathrm{r}$ or DP, respectively.Examples:
polybutadiene-graft-polystyrene (75:25 mass %; 90 000:30 000 $M_\mathrm{r}$) (a graft copolymer consisting of 75 mass % of butadiene units with a relative molecular mass of 90 000 as the backbone, and 25 mass % of styrene units in grafted chains with a relative molecular mass of 30 000)
polybutadiene-graft-polystyrene (1700:290 DP) (a graft copolymer consisting of a polybutadiene backbone with a degree of polymerization of 1700 to which polystyrene with a degree of polymerization of 290 is grafted)
As far as I can tell, the answer is actually undefined, as the 2013 Blue Book only gives a formula for constructing so-called "numerical terms" or "multiplicative prefixes" up to the number 9999.
P-14.2 of the Blue Book gives multiplicative prefixes for all values of $n$, $10n$, $100n$, and $1000n$ (where $n$ is an integer between 1 and 9), so all numbers up to 9999 can be constructed by stringing these together. However, it stops abruptly at 9000, so we can't access anything beyond 9999.
For 9999 atoms, the corresponding prefix would be 'nonanonacontanonactanonalia' (nona = 9, nonaconta = 90, nonacta = 900, nonalia = 9000); so the linear alkane $\ce{C9999H20000}$ would be named nonanonacontanonactanonaliane, as specified by P-21.2.1 of the Blue Book:
Systematic names for the higher members of this series consist of a numerical term followed by the ending 'ane' with elision of the terminal letter 'a' from the numerical term.
The choice to stop at 9999 seems to have been conscious, although perhaps arbitrary: see e.g. https://iupac.qmul.ac.uk/misc/numb.html for more discussion. This was published in 1986:
Recently a desire has been expressed for numerical terms higher than 199. This document provides the necessary guidance, based on principles already established, for generating numerical terms up to 9999 by using the infixes "cta" (for the hundreds digits) and "lia" (for the thousands digits) in a way quite analogous to the use of "conta" for the tens digits beyond twenty.
I'm aware that this is old, but the 2013 Blue Book doesn't contain any more info beyond this.
I suggest to think of $\ce{C10000H20002}$ as a uniform polymer (deprecated: monodisperse polymer). The correct name according to the IUPAC Recommendations on Polymer Terminology and Nomenclature (see the Purple Book) would then be poly(methylene) in the structure-based nomenclature or polyethene (preferred over polyethylene) in the source-based nomenclature.
If you want to distinguish between poly(methylene) with different chain lengths, you would usually use the molar mass.