# Acidity of ester and benzoic acid

Can the oxygen in an ester participate in resonance donation? I think so, although the donation is slight. The hybridization is correct. However, resonance withdrawal by the ring via the oxygen doesn't seem possible as my picture depicts. Therefore, because of resonance donation from the oxygen in the conjugate base of the ester, would that make benzoic acid the stronger acid? It seems that the resonance donation would destabilize the conjugate base of the ester.

Can the oxygen in an ester participate in resonance donation?

Sure, structure III in the following diagram is a valid resonance structure.

However, resonance withdrawal by the ring via the oxygen doesn't seem possible

No, that's possible too. It might not be a major contributor, but structure V is a valid resonance structure.

would that make benzoic acid the stronger acid?

I think you're asking which is the stronger acid, benzoic acid or the half-ester of carbonic acid. Resonance structures like III and VII will stabilize both the acid and the corresponding carboxylate anions. One molecule doesn't appear to have a more resonance stabilized starting acid or a more resonance stabilized carboxylate anion than the other. So resonance arguments don't seem to suggest that one molecule should be more acidic than the other. This conclusion, that resonance factors do not control the acidity in these two compounds, can also be arrived at by noting that the starting acids and particularly the carboxylate anions are analogous to the allyl MO system which has a node on the central carbon atom in the HOMO ($\ce{\Psi 2}$). The node effectively disconnects the substituent (-OR or phenyl) from the MO, meaning that the substituent cannot interact via resonance with the MO.

Inductively one can argue that the electron withdrawing oxygen in the half-ester would destabilize the already positively polarized carbonyl carbon in the starting acid and then also provide some inductive stabilization of the electron-rich carboxylate anion, more so than a phenyl group would. So perhaps, based mainly on inductive arguments, one could argue that the carbonic acid half-ester would be more acidic than benzoic acid.

I couldn't find any pKa values for carbonate half-esters, but we can compare the pKa of

• carbonic acid 3.6

to

• benzoic acid 4.2

The values are close, as expected - even in the right direction, but that's probably just luck.

• So the phenyl cannot interact with the carboxylate via resonance? Why then are there resonance pictures suggesting this? – Dissenter Sep 9 '14 at 21:46
• Resonance theory suggests that a substituent can interact with the carboxylate carbon via resonance. MO theory refines this and suggests that a substituent at C2 in the allyl system is effectively disconnected from the HOMO and therefore the substituent should not have a significant influence on the MO. Note that we have a 1,3-dioxa-allyl system, this perturbation may place a coefficient at C2 - I don't know. If the coefficient is significant, than the substituent could have a greater effect in the 1,3-dioxa-allyl system. – ron Sep 9 '14 at 21:57
• I think one reason why you did not find a pKa for the carbonate half ester is, that it is very unstable and releases carbon dioxide readily. Also phenolates are quite good leaving groups. $$\ce{Ph-O-CO2H ->[\Delta T] Ph-OH + CO2 ^}$$ (Water would also be a quite nice catalyst for this reaction.) – Martin - マーチン Sep 10 '14 at 5:00
• @ron how can you tell whether there is a node in the wave function or not? – Dissenter Sep 14 '14 at 15:33
• @Dissenter The primary method would be to actually calculate the coefficients for each atomic orbital in each MO; if you get a zero coefficient, then there is a node. For simple systems like ethylene, allyl, benzene, etc. you can find the coefficients in most books on the subject of Molecular Orbital theory, or on the internet, or just remember them from past usage. – ron Sep 14 '14 at 17:14