# Why London Dispersion force is attractive not repulsive

The London Dispersion force is caused by the formation of temporary dipoles in the electron cloud of neutral atoms that attract each other.

Why is this only attractive? Why don't the like poles repel, thereby nullifying the net effect?

I fail to understand the answer (the only one and unaccepted) in this post.

• Do not try to understand an answer, try to create your own with the reasoning. This simple picture is self-explanatory, based on basics of electrostatics. Hint: Replace the left temporary dipole by permanent one. What happens? Aug 24, 2021 at 15:33
• To add to Poutnik. If you have a partial positive charge pa A, it can only induce a negative one on B. Tough the treatment of dispersion forces is hard, the above is quite a valid and general principle. Aug 25, 2021 at 9:12
• The underlying quantum mechanics of electron clouds can be repulsive. That is why solids and liquids have specific volumes: the electron clouds in different molecules can't get too close. The same underlying quantum interactions also create weak London dispersion forces. A complete quantum treatment would show both repulsion and attraction. But we separate the components of those interactions to make them easier to understand as the full QM analysis is far too complicated. Aug 25, 2021 at 9:55
• Dispersion forces are caused by induced dipoles. They are basically electric dipoles. Think of two magnets- why when you bring them close in any manner/alignment, they still attract? Aug 26, 2021 at 8:26

A simple demonstration in electrostatics can convince that London dispersion forces are attractive. Has your physics teacher shown "charging by induction"?

Now replace the rods by molecules. Note the rods always attract. If one molecule develops a dipole or negative charge (on one side), it will induce an oppositive dipole in its neighbour.

Second demo, which you should yourself. Open tap in such a way that only a thin stream of water is flowing, but not dripping. Charge a comb with your hair and bring it close to the water stream. You will see water is attracted to the comb. No matter what you use for charging, water always gets attracted. There is no repulsion, because the permanent dipole of water always orients itself in such a way that its end is opposite in sign to whatever is the charge on the comb.

Water attracted to a charged comb

Now van der Waals attraction is not due to permanent dipoles but transient dipoles.

BTW, atoms and molecules do repel each other if you try to bring them very close. Can you compress water easily? Why and why not?

P.S. Please don't consider the answers on the web as answers from the Heavens. Online answers are written by students, teachers, researchers, former chemists etc. and all of us can be right or wrong.

• Please add a description of the video if possible. Such links may become defunct and not everyone wants to wander off to youtube. Aug 24, 2021 at 17:20
• Is the attraction of pieces of paper by a charged comb also due to van der Wals force?
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Aug 26, 2021 at 16:08
• No, electrostatic. van der Waals and electrostatic forces of attractive have a different distance relationship. Aug 26, 2021 at 19:57