Editing for clarity and more details.

My colleague has been using XRF to quantitatively analyze 47-mm diameter Teflon membrane filters for metals, minerals, and rare earths. Much of their analysis has been focused on quantifying metals like iron, steel, and copper. It seems they are looking into replacing their large floor-standing WD-XRF with a benchtop ED-XRF or another floor-standing WD-XRF.

They are also planning to attempt quantification of trace metals that others report to be in the ppt range, so they are considering adding an ICP-MS downstream of the XRF. However, ICP-MS is completely destructive (the membrane filters go through solvent extraction).

My colleague and I discussed that if they were going to put an ICP-MS downstream anyway for trace metals analysis, perhaps it would be better to budget for a benchtop ED-XRF upstream and a more expensive ICP-MS downstream, so that the XRF acts more as a selection mechanism for which filters should be extracted for ICP-MS.

One important question we have is on our assumption that XRF is "non-destructive" to the sample. The membrane filter will certainly be intact after XRF, but will there be some amount of loss of particulate matter that will be significant for trace metals being analyzed in the ICP-MS step of this hypothetical measurement setup?

Thanks for your time and help.

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    $\begingroup$ If think that rather X-rays themselves, not heat are inherently destructive, it's just the less intensity an shorter time the smaller damage. $\endgroup$
    – Mithoron
    Dec 4 '19 at 17:45
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    $\begingroup$ An ED-XRF will typically use a much less powerful x-ray tube. You can "cook" a sample with WD-XRF but that is due to chemical reactions caused by ionization created by xrays not really "heat" in the sample. // The two types of instruments are somewhat complementary. ED-XRF is usually better for a quick qualitative analysis, but WD-XRF is typically better for quantitative work. WD-XRF also is better for low energy XRF. $\endgroup$
    – MaxW
    Dec 4 '19 at 17:56
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    $\begingroup$ I did XRF for about two decades. To decide between the various XRF instruments you really need to think about what kind of samples you want to analyze, and if you want a semi-quantitative or the best quantitative analysis possible. // Frankly your question tells me that you don't have a clue about the technique... $\endgroup$
    – MaxW
    Dec 4 '19 at 18:22
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    $\begingroup$ @MaxW Considering your expertise with XRF and numerous previous answers on this topic which were often very helpful, would you like to post an answer by expanding your comments a little? I personally think the question is OK as it is about characteristics (probe requirements) of the instrumental method, which should have a certain answer. In my opinion, despite the question is from a person who is not an expert in XRF, it appears literate and sensible. $\endgroup$
    – andselisk
    Dec 4 '19 at 19:39
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    $\begingroup$ For instance yes, XRF is generally considered a non-destructive technique. However that really means that the technique, in general, doesn't destroy the prepared samples. However most lab instruments require a 1.25 inch in diameter sample. So an art museum is unlikely to think that cutting 1.25 inch discs out of a painting is "non-destructive." $\endgroup$
    – MaxW
    Dec 5 '19 at 0:42

The title of the question is about sample heating by ED-XRF instrument. Yet, OP is wondering its limitations and like to understand what kind of compounds analysts might lose to some sample heating if they switch to ED-XRFs (bench-top?). I hope this may be addressed by MaxW, when OP has said whay kind of samples they are analyzing. However, general knowledge on these instruments would predict both WD- and ED-XRF instruments would heat samples regardless of what kind of instrument is in use, but I'd suggest ED-XRF would heat less than that of WD-XRFs since they are low energy instruments.

Actually, to me, the bigger question is which kind is more sensitive to particular elemental analysis, regardless of sample kind (e.g., environmental or archaeological). My literature survey on the subject indicate that ED-XRF instruments is more qualitative than quantitative toward analysis, specifically towards analysis on low-$Z$ and medium-$Z$ elements (References 1 & 2).

The authors of ref.2 pointed out that the energy dispersive X-ray fluorescence analysis of low-Z-elements can generally be seen as a challenge. They have adjusted the instrument in several ways to get better data. The abstract of the article has well reflected the point:

Photoninduced energy dispersive X-ray fluorescence analysis in total reflection geometry has been applied to low-$Z$ elements. To avoid the absorption in the $\ce{Be}$-window a windowless $\ce{Si(Li)}$-detector has been used. Icing of the detector crystal is prevented by a thin $\ce{C}$-foil. Physical reasons of the low energy background are reduced using a high energy cut-off reflector. Measurements of low-$Z$ elements from $\ce{O}$ ($Z= 8$) onwards are possible and detection limits in the $\pu{ng}$ region are obtained.

Anybody interested in these adjustments should get the article, which has explained them with some depicted diagrams.

On low-$Z$ element analysis, authors of Ref.2 claimed that:

WD-XRF is the best XRF approach for measuring and quantifying low-$Z$ elements. ED-XRF spectrometers are subject to limitations, such as Bremsstrahlung radiation and escape peaks, which affect detection and quantification of low-$Z$ elements in particular. Although we will demonstrate in Section 2.3 that, under the right conditions, pXRF spectrometers can simulate the performance of bench-top ED-XRF instruments, there are two notable exceptions: $\ce{P}$ and $\ce{Na}$ (Note: the notation pXRF spectrometers are for portable-ED-XRFs).

The following diagram from Ref.2 well explained point, which shows exceptional correlation ($R^2=0.995$) of expected to measured concentrations of $\ce{P2O5}$ when WD-XRF is used:

XRF graphs


  1. Alice M. W. Hunt, Robert J. Speakman, “Portable XRF analysis of archaeological sediments and ceramics,” Journal of Archaeological Science 2015, 53, 626-638 (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jas.2014.11.031).
  2. C. Streli, H. Aiginoer, P. Wobrauschek, “Total reflection X-ray fluorescence analysis of low-Z elements,” Spectrochimica Acta Part B: Atomic Spectroscopy 1989, 44(5), 491-497 (https://doi.org/10.1016/0584-8547(89)80055-2).
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    $\begingroup$ I agree with everything you stated. I'd add that typically with WD-XRF you could take a background reading above and below the peak of interest and use the average of those counts for a background. With ED-XRF you're going to almost certainly do some sort of curve/pattern fitting becuse the individual x-ray peaks won't be fully resolved. All instruments these days would have a computer attached so such fitting/data reduction isn't a major problem, but it does impact S/N. $\endgroup$
    – MaxW
    Dec 5 '19 at 1:01

OK, now with more information I can maybe help a bit more...

47-mm diameter Teflon membrane filters

This seems larger than a "typical" sample. I'd guess that your commercial instrument choices would be very limited by this sample size. (Note that you'd also want to spin the samples for greater uniformity...)

Typical way to analyze such a sample would be to suspend the filter between two thin sheets of polypropylene (or other plastic sheet) with a sample cup. I know such sample cups exist for 1.25 inch discs, not sure about 47 mm. (This might not be totally "non-destructive in that some particulate matter could transfer between the filter and the covering polypropylene. You could always cut both sheets of plastic out with the filter, and digest all three layers for ICP-MS.)

Having a film over the filter would obviously limit sensitivity to lower energy x-rays.

degradation of Teflon filters in x-ray beam

While at IBM there was an analysis of Al/Si films on teflon using a WD-XRF. There was a long term stability problem with the standards in that the x-rays created $\ce{F2}$ gas in the teflon which leached the Si to a volatile silicon fluoride gas.

rare earths

In general the "raw" samples the rare earths tend to behave very similarly chemically. Thus do you want to analyze a mixture of the rare earths, or a single rare earth that has been purified by processing?

Mixtures of rare earths would be hard with ED-XRF.

  • Si(Li) detector has poor efficiency for $K_\alpha$ lines.
  • L- Lines for mixtures rare earths overlap.

Mixtures of rare earths would be also be hard for WD-XRF.

  • For mixtures there isn't a lot of separation of L-lines.
  • For $K_\alpha$ lines I don't think that there is a really good crystal for dispersion. (I can't find $2\theta$ tables on web right now, but I think LiF 420 has smallest spacing. I'd guess that the $K_\alpha$ lines would be at very small $2\theta$ angles)

Filter loading

I'd guess that there is quite a bit of data of filter "loading" for air particulate analysis. Basically it would ideal if the amount of particulate matter was low enough so that the sample was infinitely thin. When analyzing dust samples from mines the filter canister was sometimes half full of particulate matter and loose material was sliding around the inside of the canister.

The overall point here is that the infinite thickness for low energy x-rays is very small. So particles might be infinitely tick for light elements and infinitely thin for heavier elements. Thus you might need to use the weight of the particulates on the filter to make a correction.

KI pellet

With WD-XRF one of the ways to see where xrays are hitting a sample is to use a KI pellet. Free $\ce{I2}$ is produced by the ionizing radiation turning the exposed area purple. The technique isn't terribly useful with ED-XRF since the tube power is so low...

  • $\begingroup$ "Inverted" Optics - Most XRF systems have the x-ray tubes and detectors below the sample. Hence the need to have a film to hold the particulates on the filter. $\endgroup$
    – MaxW
    Dec 7 '19 at 20:40

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