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This is a conceptual question. Many times we work with the gibbs energy of mixing under conditions of constant temperature but not pressure. In a problem like this:

Suppose that 2.0 mol H2 at 2.0 atm and 25 ∘C and 4.0 mol N2 at 3.0 atm and 25 ∘C are mixed at constant volume. Calculate ΔmixG.

Is easy to calculate that the Gibbs mixing energy is -9,7 kJ. But we also know that we cannot use gibbs' spontaneity criterion because it only works on constant pressure and temperature.

Is there any way to determine the entropy of the universe in this case to establish a criterion of spontaneity? *For example if we know that the total volume is 10L and the division is even.

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  • $\begingroup$ For an isolated system, the criterion of spontaneity is an increase in entropy between the initial and final thermodynamic equilibrium states. $\endgroup$ – Chester Miller Feb 11 at 3:24
  • $\begingroup$ So if I calculate system's change in entropy that means I can check spontaneity because equals universe entropy. Ok. Can you show me how to calculate dS? $\endgroup$ – Zincman Feb 11 at 18:06
  • $\begingroup$ For determining change in entropy for systems of constant composition undergoing irreversible processes, see physicsforums.com/insights/grandpa-chets-entropy-recipe. For systems undergoing irreversible mixing, one uses the same kind of methodology, but with semi-permeable membranes to design and carry out reversible process paths. $\endgroup$ – Chester Miller Feb 11 at 19:11
  • $\begingroup$ Alternatively, for ideal gas mixing, one can use Gibbs' theorem. $\endgroup$ – Chester Miller Feb 11 at 19:26
  • $\begingroup$ You mean Gibbs-Duhem equation? $\endgroup$ – Zincman Feb 12 at 0:54
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Volume of H2 = $\frac{nRT}{P}=\frac{(2)R(298)}{2}$

Volume of N2 = $\frac{nRT}{P}=\frac{(4)R(298)}{3}$

Total volume = $\frac{7}{3}(298)R$

Final pressure = $\frac{nRT}{V}=\frac{(6)R(298)}{(\frac{7}{3})R(298)}=\frac{18}{7}\ atm$

Final partial pressure H2 = $\frac{18}{(7)(3)}=\frac{6}{7}\ atm$

Final partial pressure N2 = $\frac{18}{7}\frac{2}{3}=\frac{12}{7}\ atm$

$$\Delta S=-n_{H_2}R\ln{\frac{\frac{6}{7}}{2}}-n_{N_2}R\ln{\frac{\frac{12}{7}}{4}}=-(2)R(-0.8473)-(4)R(-0.8473)=5.08R$$

For ideal gas mixing, $$\Delta H = 0$$

Therefore, $$\Delta G=\Delta H-T\Delta S$$

Another way of doing this is to (a) first allow the divider to float so that the two chambers equilibrate in pressure and then (b) remove the divider and allow the gases to mix. You calculate $\Delta G$ for each step, and then add them. In the end, you get the same answer I got.

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  • $\begingroup$ Do you have any questions about what I did? $\endgroup$ – Chester Miller Feb 12 at 19:29
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    $\begingroup$ No. Amazing. I get it now. Thanks Chester, you rule! $\endgroup$ – Zincman Feb 12 at 21:41

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